Vola-Chemicritter Formaldehydra

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Vola-Chemicritter Formaldehydra

FIRE
[Reptile/Link/Effect]
Link Rating:2
Link Arrows: ⬋ (SW), ⬊ (SE)
ATK: 1400

2 monsters, including at least 1 Gemini monster

Gemini monsters this card points to are treated as Effect monsters, and they gain their effects. This monster gains effects based on the number of Gemini Effect Monsters used for its Link Summon.

• 1: You can Special Summon 1 Gemini monster from your Deck. You can only use this effect of "Vola-Chemicritter Formaldehydra" once per turn.
• 2: Double this card's ATK. Also, your opponent cannot target Gemini Monsters for attacks.

[spoiler=Support To:]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chemicritter
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gemini_monster

 

 

[spoiler=Flavor, Concept, and Wordplay]Based off of the volatile organic compound, formaldehyde, as the only existing Extra Deck monster for Chemicritters is based on a volatile organic compound that contains Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde

Wordplay:

(Formaldehyde- last "de") + (Hydra- "hy")= Pormanteau

 

Yeah I know they already referenced Hydra in the form of "Poly-Chemicritter Hydragon", but I thought that this could be a more intense variation of it somehow.

 

 

[spoiler=Intent]If it isn't obvious enough, it is to give one of the most underachieving sub-types, Gemini, a workable Link monster.

 

 

[spoiler=Edit Log]10/28: Made Type into Reptile instead of Dragon to meet up to the diversity in Chemicritters' general typing. And altered the ATK down 200 points.

10/28 (again): Flipped bulleted effects, and brought back the ATK to 1400. Also, made the Needlefiber-esque effect not immediately "Geminize" the Summoned Gemini monster.

 

[Darj]

Isn't an hydra more of a serpent? FIRE/Sea Serpent would be a cooler typing, IMO.

Not convinced on the existence of a semi-generic Link2 that can reach 2800 ATK on its own.

But the other effect it's amazing. It's like Needlefiber, but for Geminis, and not only drops them with their effects, also it can grab of any Level! You may want to regulate the last part. Oh, it's OPT too.

The other effect of "Geminizing" monsters it points to is neat as well, but I have seen it before. I forget if it was you who made the card, or someone else.

[Guest BGMCANN0N]

Isn't an hydra more of a serpent? FIRE/Sea Serpent would be a cooler typing, IMO.

Not convinced on the existence of a semi-generic Link2 that can reach 2800 ATK on its own.

But the other effect it's amazing. It's like Needlefiber, but for Geminis, and not only drops them with their effects, also it can grab of any Level! You may want to regulate the last part. Oh, it's OPT too.

The other effect of "Geminizing" monsters it points to is neat as well, but I have seen it before. I forget if it was you who made the card, or someone else.

As for the Typing suggestion: You are right that it needs a new typing... I thought there was a pattern in the typing of Chemicritters, but then I looked back and realized their typing is pretty eclectic, and that none of them share the same typing... I mean it could also be Reptile. But, yeah.

 

As for the 1st bulleted effect: I thought that the requirement of having a "Geminized" Gemini + 1 other monster makes the boost pretty acceptable. It is like getting 3 Summons to make it, so one could think of it as a semi-generic Link 3 in away to achieve that effect. Perhaps I could lower the ATK to make the doubled ATK value more up to par though to make it seem like Link 3 and less of some Link 4. Or maybe I can even flip the two bulleted effects around...

 

And the starting effect where it "Geminizes" monsters it points to... Yeah I am sure I am not the only one who thought of it, but it is probably one of the few ways one can actually help Geminis achieve their primary goal: getting their Effects. If we really want to get to where the "Geminizing" Gemini on the spot (by the means of an Extra Deck monster) derived from, it actually starts with an existing card by the name of "Superalloy Beast Raptinus": http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Superalloy_Beast_Raptinus So either way, none of us who considered the idea could claim it was a very original one to start with. XD

[Dova]

It doesn't need a "Geminized" Gemini for its Summon; while Gemini monsters are treated as Normal Monsters before they are Summoned, and are then treated as effect monsters, they still keep the Gemini Sub-Type through all of that. Super Double Summon, for example, allows you to Normal Summon a Gemini Monster you control, and the only way you can Normal Summon a monster you control is with a Gemini currently as a Normal. So yeah, not too hard to bring out, actually.

It as a 1200->2400 is alright, definitely not too strong, but I do wish the effects were switched around, the only real reason being for Gem-Knights, with their plethora of Gemini Monsters. I'm not on my computer right now, so I can't look at the card database at the moment, so without that, I can't think of any Gemini Monsters that are a real problem a la Needlefiber. I do think if you boosted the ATK back to 1400->2800 and made it a secondary effect, it would still be fine, as it seems to be the less generic effect while being EXTREMELY helpful for Geminis. A better Needlefiber, as it were :P

One thing I will say in regards to perhaps nerfing it if you do swap the effects around is removing the Geminizing effect to the monster it grabs from the Deck, and instead forcing you as a player to place it in a Link Zone this monster belongs to to properly use it. Of course, this locks it to the EMZ if you want to keep the effect, but you still get the monster from the Deck. Maybe this would work better as a Link 3, with 1 arrow point to the side. Hm....

[Darj]

Full support Dova's suggestion there. Also requiring 1 Gemini for the second effect would make it sooo much flexible and gives an extra value to all those archetypes with rogue Geminis. Ancient Gear Knight comes to mind right away. Not to make an excuse, but while I wrote my first post I thought it already required only 1 Gemini for that effect, hence my comparison with Needlefiber. It just didn't click.

It also didn't click to me that the double ATK only applies when you use a geminized monster. I did get that such thing was the intention but somehow I read it in such way that I thought you could use a non-geminized monster anyway.

 

I really made a sucky first review, huh. My apologies for that.

 

Anyway, for suggestions, I would remove the need of a geminized monster for the Needlefiber-like effect, take Dova's suggestion of not Summoning it with the Effect enabled so you are encouraged to Summon the monster on a Zone it points to, and double the ATK when you use at least 1 geminized monster as material. To balance, IMO 1200-2400 ATK is just fine, and I would restrict the search effect to Level4 or lower Geminis. Or perhaps be more creative and allow for any Level if you used a geminized monster for its Summon, for fun times with Gigaplant, Doom Shaman, etc.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

As the card is in its current form, should be alright for most part as it going to 2400 isn't particularly gamebreaking (and Geminis aren't exactly abusive, even with Supervise and other things considered). I'd probably agree with Dova on bumping its original ATK back up a bit as it still requires the effort to make them treated as Effect Monsters on the field and 2800 ATK off that shouldn't be too much of a concern after that.

 

Though, going with potential changes:

• Maybe push its ATK back up to 1400 and switch effects back. You will have to modify the stat gain if you do this (as opposed to doubling it straight off), but having it gain ATK equal to half its original ATK wouldn't be too bad if you used a Gemini monster (2100 ATK Link 2 is bearable)
• Removing the Geminized requirement might help, even if Catalyst Field helps to some extent to alleviate the need for a Double Summon.
• Link 3 with marker on the side sounds good to make it less dead outside EMZ, but will require you add another effect or rework the other stuff to compensate.

IDK about the Level requirement thing though, but Geminis do need added summon speed right now. If you work it to require 2 Gemini monsters that have been summoned again, then probably alright to just summon the monster for free. (Or you can just negate the monster's effects during its summoning turn as a trade-off).

[Horu]

Well, if you're modeling after the hydra that Hercules/Herakles fought, then Reptile is appropiate typing. If you model after Leviathan, Sea Serpent would be appropiate. But then there are instances of multi-headed dragons that are hydras. So any of the three typings could work for this card. All up to the creator and the design they imagine.