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Hey everyone,

 

For some reason, I ended up watching a few episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds during Christmas break, and I noticed that many of the Decks used by the Dark Signers were often either not well developed or pretty mediocre. I ended up experimenting with a few of them but as of now, the “Reactors” used by Greiger (or Bomber in the Japanese version) were the only ones that I deemed worthy of being showed on the forum.  

 

So, there it is. Take a look and tell me what you think.

 

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So just to start out, although I remember some fun tricks with Reactors back like 10 years ago, I feel like the original 3 monsters + SKY FIRE are pretty terrible. They have terrible stats and almost completely useless effects. If anything should be done for them, it should be a complete rework, but Trickstars honestly already do what these cards were trying to do (set up a board that punishes every action your opponent takes until they kill themselves). That being said, I want to try to look at these cards as a case study of what SHOULD have been done with them.
 

I definitely like that they are pendulum monsters here. you need something like that if you're going to have a deck that needs tributes. The only other route I can think of that would be competitive is something like ABCs. That does bring up a good thought though: how do you distinguish the Reactor combination from the ABC combination?

 

As far as Meteor (the semi-boss) goes, I like that it has a more consistent Ash Blossom feel. I almost feel like it needs a power bump though. Something like this would have a more unique place, maybe, if it shuffled the added card back into the deck. Considering it's not very strong stat wise and it has no inherent protection, this wouldn't be unreasonable at all.

There's just a lot here to dissect. If you want, we can keep talking but I don't want to write an essay here if its not wanted ^_^;



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So just to start out, although I remember some fun tricks with Reactors back like 10 years ago, I feel like the original 3 monsters + SKY FIRE are pretty terrible. They have terrible stats and almost completely useless effects. If anything should be done for them, it should be a complete rework, but Trickstars honestly already do what these cards were trying to do (set up a board that punishes every action your opponent takes until they kill themselves). That being said, I want to try to look at these cards as a case study of what SHOULD have been done with them.
 

I definitely like that they are pendulum monsters here. you need something like that if you're going to have a deck that needs tributes. The only other route I can think of that would be competitive is something like ABCs. That does bring up a good thought though: how do you distinguish the Reactor combination from the ABC combination?

 

As far as Meteor (the semi-boss) goes, I like that it has a more consistent Ash Blossom feel. I almost feel like it needs a power bump though. Something like this would have a more unique place, maybe, if it shuffled the added card back into the deck. Considering it's not very strong stat wise and it has no inherent protection, this wouldn't be unreasonable at all.

There's just a lot here to dissect. If you want, we can keep talking but I don't want to write an essay here if its not wanted ^_^;

Hey there,

 

Thanks for the comments. You are pretty much right about Reactors and SKY FIRE, they are pretty useless as they stand right now and have never really been seen in competitive play, but I always love a challenge. The way I understand it, there seemed to have been some big production hurdles with the 5Ds anime which sadly left their group of bad guys with some of the worst deck I’ve ever seen, an injustice I felt I had to correct. For me, the fact that Reactors had Trickstar-like effects before Trickstars were even a thing felt like some untapped potential that could be exploited for some very happy players.

 

Now for the meat of the critique. I intentionally left METEOR without inherent protection since I felt it was way easier to summon that SKY FIRE, which could prove troublesome for the opponent. Furthermore, it can be summoned pretty much every turn because of its materials, which are Pendulum monsters, as well as during the battle phase and the opponent’s turn. But I think you were right about it being a little too weak, so I stole your idea and allowed it to shuffle cards from the hand into the Deck.

 

I you would like to talk about it more, I’d be happy to. I love essays since long critiques of my work allow me to improve.

 

In the meantime, thanks for the comment and have a nice day.


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Haha thanks. And also here's a shameless plug to come check out some of my cards too!! :D

 

Going back, I realize there was a lot of thought you put into the pendulum scales, the levels, and even making MET a tuner. So I love all of that ps.

Okay let's break it down card-by-card and if you want, I can keep going.

"Adaptive Reactor MET" (*There shouldn't be a space here because there's no space in METEOR)

atk and def should be higher for sure. If you look at SK, even it has okay stats for the level. personally I like 2500/1700 because they're odd numbers, like the base Reactors (in fact only Gungnir and KM Gulungulante have those exact stats). those are appropriate stats for a level 6 monster.

 

- monster effect:
most decks these days either have an easy extra normal summon for their monsters, or they just allow you to special summon higher level monsters (consider Yosenju vs Cyber Dragon). Since the base Reactors are terrible (as we've agreed), I think its very reasonable to go with the latter. as for the draw mechanic, I think it would be cool if new Reactors here could support the dark machine archetype as a whole (since it did get new cards recently). My suggestion is to make the draw for the normal summon of any dark machine.

- pendulum effect:
the first part seems perfect, more or less. since Reactors can only use any of their effects once per turn, and they're slow, it's great to have that negation. I don't really like the passive trigger for the second effect. you need decks today that don't have to play passively to pop off. I suggest more of a odd-eyes effect.

 

 

In summary, here is a suggested rewrite of the card
 

Pendulum Effect:

Any card destroyed by the effect of a "Reactor" monster you control has its effects negated until the end of this turn (even if this card leaves the field). During your End Phase: You can destroy this card, and if you do, take 1 DARK Machine monster from your Deck, except "Adaptive Reactor MET", and either add it to your hand or send it to the GY. You can only use this effect of "Adaptive Reactor MET" once per turn.

 

Monster Effect:

If you control no monsters OR the only monsters you control are "Reactor" monsters, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). When you Normal Summon a DARK Machine monster: You can draw 1 card. When either player's monster declares an attack: You can negate the attack, also, after that, inflict 800 damage to your opponent. You can only use each effect of "Adaptive Reactor MET" once per turn.



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Haha thanks. And also here's a shameless plug to come check out some of my cards too!! :D

 

Going back, I realize there was a lot of thought you put into the pendulum scales, the levels, and even making MET a tuner. So I love all of that ps.

Okay let's break it down card-by-card and if you want, I can keep going.

"Adaptive Reactor MET" (*There shouldn't be a space here because there's no space in METEOR)

atk and def should be higher for sure. If you look at SK, even it has okay stats for the level. personally I like 2500/1700 because they're odd numbers, like the base Reactors (in fact only Gungnir and KM Gulungulante have those exact stats). those are appropriate stats for a level 6 monster.

 

- monster effect:
most decks these days either have an easy extra normal summon for their monsters, or they just allow you to special summon higher level monsters (consider Yosenju vs Cyber Dragon). Since the base Reactors are terrible (as we've agreed), I think its very reasonable to go with the latter. as for the draw mechanic, I think it would be cool if new Reactors here could support the dark machine archetype as a whole (since it did get new cards recently). My suggestion is to make the draw for the normal summon of any dark machine.

- pendulum effect:
the first part seems perfect, more or less. since Reactors can only use any of their effects once per turn, and they're slow, it's great to have that negation. I don't really like the passive trigger for the second effect. you need decks today that don't have to play passively to pop off. I suggest more of a odd-eyes effect.

 

 

In summary, here is a suggested rewrite of the card
 

Pendulum Effect:

Any card destroyed by the effect of a "Reactor" monster you control has its effects negated until the end of this turn (even if this card leaves the field). During your End Phase: You can destroy this card, and if you do, take 1 DARK Machine monster from your Deck, except "Adaptive Reactor MET", and either add it to your hand or send it to the GY. You can only use this effect of "Adaptive Reactor MET" once per turn.

 

Monster Effect:

If you control no monsters OR the only monsters you control are "Reactor" monsters, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). When you Normal Summon a DARK Machine monster: You can draw 1 card. When either player's monster declares an attack: You can negate the attack, also, after that, inflict 800 damage to your opponent. You can only use each effect of "Adaptive Reactor MET" once per turn.

Hey again,

 

I don’t really agree with the new wording for Adaptive Reactor MET, here is my reasoning and the purpose I envisioned for this card. First and foremost, when I upgrade an existing Archetype, I try doing it in a way that does not completely override the existing support for that card series. I want my fictional players to use the old Reactors as well as SKY FIRE in their (fictional) Decks. That is why I didn’t want MET to negate attacks or influence the Battle Phase, since Summon Reactor SK already has an effect that does something similar. Also, every Reactor has pretty low ATK and I really wanted players to use at least 1 copy of SKY FIRE. The effect of MET makes it so every Reactors can become a huge threat as well as giving SKY FIRE something other to do than be a complete dead draw (arguably, that does not fix the situation completely, but it’s a start). It’s also the reason for its low ATK: its effect can basically make it into a 3700 ATK and 4900 DEF wall for a little while.

 

Where I do agree, is that its effect should encompass all DARK Machine-Type monster and that I need an easier way to summon it (even if it’s primarily made to be in the Pendulum Zone). Although that isn’t crucial in my opinion since it can be used to Summon METEOR while in the Pendulum Zone and possibly during the opponent’s turn. Also, it can be Special Summoned from the Deck with METEOR’s effect, which isn’t too shabby in my opinion.






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