Ultimagamer Posted April 8, 2019 Report Share Posted April 8, 2019 This archetype is a series of cards I thought of that are based around the section in Bookworm Adventures 1 where you fight your way through a series of thieves ( a section based around the story of Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves ). The concept for the archetype is monsters who have powerful effects, but your opponent can choose to negate those effects for a cost of life points. If they do that, however, you will gain another effect. I'm planning to release this archetype in a series of waves ( likely 3-4 waves at most ) and release 5-6 cards in each wave. Any kind of feedback is greatly appreciated! [spoiler=Wave 1]Ali Baba Thief #1 Level 1 / Dark / Fiend / Effect 800 attack / 100 defense If this card is Normal Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 “Ali Baba” monster from your Deck in defense position, except “Ali Baba Thief #1”. Your opponent can pay 300 LP to negate this effect. You can only use this effect of “Ali Baba Thief #1” once per turn. If the preceding effect is negated: You can add 1 “Ali Baba” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Ali Baba Thief #1. Ali Baba Thief #2 Level 1 / Dark / Fiend / Effect 400 attack / 0 defense If you control an “Ali Baba” monster, except “Ali Baba Thief #2”: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. Your opponent can pay 300 LP to negate this effect. You can only use this effect of “Ali Baba Thief #2” once per turn. If the preceding effect is negated: You can add 1 “Ali Baba” Spell/Trap card from your Deck to your hand. Ali Baba Thief #3 Level 2 / Dark / Fiend / Effect 1000 attack / 300 defense If you control an “Ali Baba” monster, except “Ali Baba Thief #3”: You can Special Summon this card from your GY. Your opponent can pay 400 LP to negate this effect. You can only use this effect of “Ali Baba Thief #3” once per turn. If the preceding effect is negated: You can send 1 “Ali Baba” monster from your Deck to your GY, except “Ali Baba Thief #3”. Ali Baba Thief #4 Level 2 / Dark / Fiend / Effect 900 attack / 200 defense You can discard this card, then target 1 “Ali Baba” monster from your GY, except “Ali Baba Thief #4”; Special Summon it in defense position. Your opponent can pay 400 LP to negate this effect. You can only use this effect of “Ali Baba Thief #4” once per turn. If the preceding effect is negated: You can draw 1 card, then you can discard 1 card. Ali Baba Den of Thieves Spell - Field During your Main Phase: You can activate this effect; immediately after this effect resolves, you can Normal Summon 1 “Ali Baba” monster in addition to your Normal Summon/Set ( You can only gain this effect once per turn ). Each time the effect of an “Ali Baba” card(s) in your possession is negated: You can draw 1 card. Ali Baba Sneak Attack Trap - Normal If all of the monsters you control are “Ali Baba” monster (min. 1): Look at your opponent’s hand, then you can choose 1 card in it to send to the GY. Until the end of the next turn after this effect resolves, you cannot Special Summon monsters except “Ali Baba” monsters. You can banish this card from your GY; for the rest of the turn after this effect resolves, the effects of “Ali Baba” monsters in your possession cannot be negated. You can only use each effect of “Ali Baba Sneak Attack” once per turn. [spoiler=Wave 2]Ali Baba Thieves 10 and 11 Level 4 / Dark / Fiend / Effect 1200 attack / 0 defense Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand) while you control 2 or more “Ali Baba” monsters. If Summoned this way: You can tribute this card; Special Summon up to 2 “Ali Baba” monsters with different names from your hand. Your opponent can pay 500 LP to negate this effect. You can only use this effect of “Ali Baba Thieves 10 and 11” once per turn. If the preceding effect is negated: You can target 3 “Ali Baba” cards in your GY; shuffle them into the Deck, then draw 1 card. Ali Baba Thieves 12 and 13 Level 4 / Dark / Fiend / Effect 1400 attack / 0 defense Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 1 “Ali Baba” monster from your GY. If Summoned this way: You can Target 1 other “Ali Baba” monster you control and 1 monster your opponent controls; return both of them to the hand. Your opponent can pay 500 LP to negate this effect. You can only use this effect of “Ali Baba Thieves 12 and 13” once per turn. If the preceding effect is negated: You can target 1 “Ali Baba” monster in your GY, except “Ali Baba Thieves 12 and 13”; Special Summon it. Ali Baba Thieves 20, 21, and 22 Link 2 / Dark Fiend / Link / Effect Link Materials: 2 “Ali Baba” monsters Link Markers: Left, Bottom RightAttack: 1800 If the effect of an “Ali Baba” card(s) in your possession is negated: You can target 1 card your opponent controls; destroy it. During the end phase, if this card is in the GY and the effect of an “Ali Baba” card(s) in your possession was negated during this turn, except the effect of “Ali Baba Thieves 20, 21, and 22”: You can Special Summon this card from your GY. You can only use each effect of “Ali Baba Thieves 20, 21, and 22” once per turn. Ali Baba Thieves 23, 24, and 25 Link 2 / Dark / Fiend / Link / Effect Link Materials: 2 “Ali Baba” monsters Link Markers: Left, Right Attack: 2000 If this card is Link Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone: You can discard 1 “Ali Baba” card; draw 1 card, then move this card to one of unused Main Monster Zones. During the end phase, if this card is in the GY and the effect of an “Ali Baba” card(s) in your possession was negated during this turn, except the effect of “Ali Baba Thieves 23, 24, and 25”: You can Special Summon this card from your GY. You can only use each effect of “Ali Baba Thieves 23, 24, and 25” once per turn. Open, Sesame! Spell - Normal ( This card is always treated as an “Ali Baba” card ). Add 1 “Ali Baba” monster from your Deck to your hand. You can only use this effect of “Open, Sesame!” once per turn. If an “Ali Baba” monster(s) in your possession has their effect negated: You can activate this effect; During your next Draw Phase, you can give up your Normal Draw, and if you do, add this card from your GY to your hand. Ali Baba Money Pilfer Trap - Continuous If the effect of an “Ali Baba” card(s) in your possession is negated: You can discard 1 “Ali Baba” card; your opponent discards 1 card, then your opponent draws 1 card, then you draw 2 cards. You can banish this card from your GY; for the rest of the turn after this effect resolves, the effects of “Ali Baba” monsters in your possession cannot be negated. You can only use each effect of “Ali Baba Money Pilfer” once per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tinkerer Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'll be honest, going into this, I was scared that there were gonna be 40 archetypal cards XDYou said you were going to expand on this. From what I see right now, the archetype looks solid. You've got four core playmaker monsters, a field spell that lets you hold onto advantage, and a trap that really runs with the thief aspect.As it is, until you write up the deck's main wincon, I don't really have too much to add other than maybe a PSCT fix here and there. I really like the gimmick and it really lends itself to, uh... "certain expectations" in card design. Really looking forward to seeing some more.[spoiler Text fixes]Sneak Attack:If all of the monsters you control are “Ali Baba” monsters (min. 1): Look at your opponent’s hand, then you can choose 1 card in it to send to the GY. Until the end of the next turn after this effect resolves, you cannot Special Summon monsters except “Ali Baba” monsters. You can banish this card from your GY; for the rest of the turn after this effect resolves, the effects of “Ali Baba” monsters in your possession cannot be negated. You can only use each effect of “Ali Baba Sneak Attack” once per turn. (basically de-capitalized "monsters" and fixed the first part of the banish effect - trap effects in the GY are always quick effects, and you don't need to specify if it is in the GY if the cost is banishing itself from the GY.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimagamer Posted April 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad wave 1 looks good. Wave 2 is out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tinkerer Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 The second batch looks like it's really leaning heavily into your opponent negating your effects. To one extent, that's fine, but then design-wise, it seems awkward making the negated effects almost better than the actual effects (especially when the first batch had the negated effects being actively weaker). If the negated effects end up being almost as good or even better in certain cases, then the opponent wouldn't end up bothering to negate and you wouldn't gain any further benefit. To further add to this, both Links need an something to be negated and don't have an effect to be negated themselves. It just compounds the problem. Aside from the mechanical aspects though, I do like this batch too. It gives the deck something to aim toward while also adding to the deck's consistency. I'm also loving the little touch you made that every MD monster that is a "Recurring Nightmares" target can also Special Summon itself from the hand. It does show how you can build the deck with outside support. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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